Leaving the Legion for a Diocese in Brazil

the "Leaving the Legion" priest is on his way to Brazil; he must have worked there as a Legionary and after a period of reflections is leaving the inhospitable Legion superiors for greener pastures

Dear Legionary, How Long are you going to Wait?

Some left a couple of years ago when Maciel died and he lost his grip on the tripulation, his hold on the members loosened, and his cronies tried to batten down the hatches
Some left when Maciel's sordid life was revealed
Some left when they thought the Investigation would take too long or would not be rigorous enough

Some have been placated by Mons De Paolis message to the members in Rome, and have put their leaving on hold

He tells them to hold on to their charism and their vocation.

What charism? The charism bequeated by a totally selfish and self-serving person, full of deceit? A charism to assure the rich that they could get to heaven by helping the Legion?

What vocation? A vocation that was never once properly discerned. It was only reinforced with pseudo-Ignation spiritual exercises and by Spiritual Direction similar to brainwashing

How long will it take to reform the Legion?

Is the Legion worth reforming?

Can a total Narcissist, Marcial Maciel, really found a religious order based on altruistic love?

The Terrible Damage done to Members, according to Catholic Priest

Legionaries Future in the Balance
America magazine online
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Has anyone thought about the damage that has been done to the young men and women who were part of this group? The order has clear signs of a cult mentality. My experiences with people who have been involved with cults is that they are almost permanently damaged. Probably because they are people who are drawn to such extreme groups, they may respond extremely. They could be lost to the Church or harbor deep resentments toward Church authority and structure. That would be a true shame! But what is to be done? Would they ever be able to fit in with typical parochial and diocesan situations? I don't envy Pope Benedict in this. He will need the wisdom of Solomon and then some!


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Posted By Fr. Charles McDermott
Friday, September 18, 2009 03:54:30 PM

Why Don't (more) People Leave?

The blogger is indebted to Dialogue Ireland for this very helpful report on Why it is So Difficult for People to Leave High Demand Groups. Although this case refers to Scientology, we believe it can be applied, servatis servandis, to the Legion of Christ and Regnum Christi Movement which has already been associated to Cults by experts such as I.C.S.A., Steve Hassan, et al.

Please read this article with an open -not cult-like closed- mind to obtain a better understanding of what members go through

I'm Leaving the Legion of Christ [active Priest transitioning to diocesan]

Follow up on the Legionary chronicling his exit from the Legion and transition to diocese

I'm Leaving the Legion of Christ -New Blog of active priest

Just found this solid blog

Part III begins:
Tuesday, June 15, 2010

Why I'm Leaving the Legion of Christ (Part 3)

I love to write, and normally follow a careful process to make it work: rough draft, revision, sentence structure and flow. I didn’t do that here. I just sat down and let it flow, letting Bill Gates take care of the spelling errors. Sorry if it’s sticky reading. Fr Jack.

Read “Why I’m Leaving” Part 1 and Part 2


I have mentioned the frustration that I experience in the legion and how it has been an obstacle to my fulfillment. Everyone needs to feel fulfilled.


Every once in a while, I hit the “Next Blog>>” button on the top of my blog, and most times it brings me to family blogs, photos of babies, husbands and wives. You don’t find blogs extolling the joys of a dysfunctional family, how great it is to be separated or divorced, and what a joy that my child doesn’t have a father. No one willingly wants that – that brings unhappiness.


No one feels happy in something that’s not right. But when the family is working well, where there is true love, you can see how fulfilled they are. Family makes us love. If we don’t love we are miserable. And to love properly you have to be able to express love, affection, kindness, mercy and being forgiven. The dynamic of the family is the dynamic of the Church.


My family for the past 24 years (not my natural family, of course) has been dysfunctional. And that brings frustration. I haven’t been able to express in a healthy way all God has given me and all that he has been asking me to be. There has been a constant wanting to live behind a mask, to be false, to put on a way of being that is not me. I ...

Cults for Normal People -Leaving the Cult is like getting off Heroin

Not all cults are whacko
Some look normal
Some may even look Orthodox

Fr Jonathan Morris, your Fox Commentator Padre, left the Legion of Christ before the Vatican finished its investigation.

Forgive the critical tone in the article below

Given their pathological religiosity and curiously durable naivety, it's no wonder Americans have made their country the world capital of cults. There are now more than 5000 cult groups in the US, their members numbering between 10 million and 15 million. This powerful documentary looks at just one group, the Mountain Rock Church, and the chaos it wreaks in the lives of four families.


Based in South Carolina, the church is run by Pastor Raimund Melz, a whip-thin, German-born preacher who, with his wife Deborah, exerts almost complete control over followers. Melz bills himself as an apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor and teacher, the only source of truth and the sole road to salvation.

But he has also become the centre of his acolytes' temporal world. Having built their homes in the church compound, called The Heritage, church members hand them over to Melz (on orders from the Lord, naturally), from whom they must then rent them back. Emptied out by fear and filled back up with guilt, church members are, in effect, reduced to infantilism, unable to think or act for themselves. “You have to have him [Melz] point out the sin,” former follower Tonya Rogers says, “because you're a dumb baby, you're a dumb sheep . . . so he has to be the one, 'cause he hears from God.”

Breaking away is akin to getting off heroin; a long, wrenchingly painful journey that has been captured artfully by filmmaker Ondi Timoner. (Interestingly, Timoner's 2004 rock'n'roll doco, DiG!, dealt in part with singer Anton Newcombe and the seemingly maniacal control he had over his band members in the Brian Jonestown Massacre.) The film also points out the changing dynamic of cults, from the huge, Moonie-type groups of the 1970s to smaller units led and supported by ostensibly “normal” people.